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Hey, everybody goes through hard times periodically. An awful LOT of people are going through hard times right now. They don't threaten to end it because nobody helps them. They do their best to fight their way through it all on their own if they have to. Giving up isn't the answer.

YOU've got a job that you make good money at. Lots of people would look at you and consider you a great success. Don't make liars out of them. Your work IS your first successful goal. Build on it and forget these pipedreams of how you could do so much better if someone would lend you the money. Obviously it's a no-go so stop barking up that tree.

If it's a genuinely good idea, keep it in the deep background and maybe at some time in the future will come another opportunity to bring it back for consideration. It it's a genuinely good idea, it'll wait. If it's not, it'll evaporate and go away and not bother you any more.

Now get off that self-pity pedestal and get on with life.


You seem really smart and I think your advice is good. I appreciate you taking the time to think out and send your replies. There are a lot more details I haven't shared though.

I'm sorry for posting downer stuff. I'm being real to the situation though. At least just going for a drive cheered me up a little.
Post Sun Jun 19, 2011 12:50 am
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Build on it and forget these pipedreams of how you could do so much better if someone would lend you the money. Obviously it's a no-go so stop barking up that tree.


I don't understand how it can be a pipedream to find somebody who wants to make some money. I'm trying to hook someone or some people up. It's sad to think they maybe want me to die.
Post Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:30 am
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It's sad to think they maybe want me to die.

Oh, for crying out loud.

Do YOU want other people to die? No, you don't. Why would you suppose they want you to die? Other people's thoughts are mostly just about themselves ..... just as are yours. It's just human nature. Imputing thoughts of your death to other people is just another form of self-centered thought.

Now knock off this self-centered thought. Here's a conundrum: you improve your own world around you not by focusing on how you can improve your world by benefiting yourself, but you improve your own world by focusing on how you can improve others' worlds by benefiting THEM. To make a very, very loose paraphrase from the Bible (which is filled with life wisdom whether you acknowledge God or not):

"Those who try to get everything for themselves will end up with nothing; those who seek nothing for themselves will end up with everything."

It's all about point of view. Like my previous advice about the only way to be happy is to be happy. Shift your point of view. Your current point of view is not working for you. Why would you continue from a point of view that's not working?
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It's sad to think they maybe want me to die.

Oh, for crying out loud.

Do YOU want other people to die? No, you don't. Why would you suppose they want you to die? Other people's thoughts are mostly just about themselves ..... just as are yours. It's just human nature. Imputing thoughts of your death to other people is just another form of self-centered thought.

Now knock off this self-centered thought. Here's a conundrum: you improve your own world around you not by focusing on how you can improve your world by benefiting yourself, but you improve your own world by focusing on how you can improve others' worlds by benefiting THEM. To make a very, very loose paraphrase from the Bible (which is filled with life wisdom whether you acknowledge God or not):

"Those who try to get everything for themselves will end up with nothing; those who seek nothing for themselves will end up with everything."

It's all about point of view. Like my previous advice about the only way to be happy is to be happy. Shift your point of view. Your current point of view is not working for you. Why would you continue from a point of view that's not working?


I already do have a mindset of helping others. It's sad it seems I'm analytical enough to have been able to help millions of people. Not one private message even asking for more information.

I haven't mentioned that regardless of money, I have some health issues doctors haven't been able to give me a little hope with. If life can't keep my interest to live even if I was rich, what does God expect to happen when things are this retarded? It's hard to get through my head, but maybe God's plan is for me to kill myself.
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maybe God's plan is for me to kill myself.

It's possible. It happened with Judas Iscariot. Matthew 27:5.

But....he played a pretty important role in that he was the disciple that betrayed Jesus. I suspect that what he has in mind for ordinary people going through difficult times is more like Psalm 23:4, Psalm 24:16, Psalm 22:24.

Whatever YOUR health issues may be, you can ALWAYS look around and find someone else who's worse off, and who still thinks life is worth living. Funny how things don't seem quite so bad when one realizes that they're worse for someone else. I'm not sure whether that's a good thing or not. But it's human nature. Such is the nature of human nature. Confused
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maybe God's plan is for me to kill myself.

It's possible. It happened with Judas Iscariot. Matthew 27:5.

But....he played a pretty important role in that he was the disciple that betrayed Jesus. I suspect that what he has in mind for ordinary people going through difficult times is more like Psalm 23:4, Psalm 24:16, Psalm 22:24.

Whatever YOUR health issues may be, you can ALWAYS look around and find someone else who's worse off, and who still thinks life is worth living. Funny how things don't seem quite so bad when one realizes that they're worse for someone else. I'm not sure whether that's a good thing or not. But it's human nature. Such is the nature of human nature. Confused


I'll have a to lookup those scriptures later. I don't deny Jesus, but he seems nowhere to be found. I was going to church and even volunteering at church helping with the slideshow. I reached a point though where it was difficult to go to church when God continuously ignored my prayers for guidance (not even for outcome).

It cheered me up a little getting in the office today and getting paid. It just blows my mind though that after this week I won't even have a car to use to get to the office and I make $47/hr.
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It just blows my mind though that after this week I won't even have a car to use to get to the office and I make $47/hr.


That seems like an very small hill for a mountain climber. You make $47/hr - take 3 weeks pay and go buy a $5000 car. Where is the hurdle?
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It just blows my mind though that after this week I won't even have a car to use to get to the office and I make $47/hr.


That seems like an very small hill for a mountain climber. You make $47/hr - take 3 weeks pay and go buy a $5000 car. Where is the hurdle?


Well a small hurdle was me considering ending it all today. That made a big difference my mom let me use her car, I didn't think she was going to let me.
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I don't deny Jesus, but he seems nowhere to be found. .... I reached a point though where it was difficult to go to church when God continuously ignored my prayers for guidance .

Jesus can be pretty hard to find in most churches. Rolling Eyes
I do believe God answers prayer .... when you ask Him for what He wants you to ask Him for. Trying to figure THAT out is NOT easy. There's something I've been asking for over 30 years on a daily basis and still no answer. Or maybe I already got the answer and just haven't been willing to accept "No" as an answer. That then would be MY problem and not God's.
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I don't deny Jesus, but he seems nowhere to be found. .... I reached a point though where it was difficult to go to church when God continuously ignored my prayers for guidance .

Jesus can be pretty hard to find in most churches. Rolling Eyes
I do believe God answers prayer .... when you ask Him for what He wants you to ask Him for. Trying to figure THAT out is NOT easy. There's something I've been asking for over 30 years on a daily basis and still no answer. Or maybe I already got the answer and just haven't been willing to accept "No" as an answer. That then would be MY problem and not God's.


I've gone to good churches, but one of my problems is isolating. I don't talk to anyone really. I've had demons I wrestle with that makes it easier that way. hapilly those seem better lately. It's like lifted me inside, but doesn't want to with money. I don't understand it.
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Sorry....didn't understand that last? About not wanting to with money?
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Sorry....didn't understand that last? About not wanting to with money?


My life was lifted, but not my financial situation.

Lately I've gotten pretty depressed, but at least life or God like lifted my heart and had me notice some health improvements. I paid some money for Google adwords to a blog I wrote regarding a personal loan. I also posted on this site in the money making opportunity section. I can offer someone a chance to make a lot of money with little risk and can't get anyone to say tell me more.
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I'm glad you're feeling better. Smile
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I'm glad you're feeling better. Smile


Every day is a battle. I'm back now to considering working two days to get enough money to buy a gun and kill myself. I doubt I will, but maybe.

It seems so retarded I'm stuck in this situation when all it would take to get out is someone who was willing to make some money off me.
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Like you said .... it seems retarded.

If you stop thinking about it, it will no longer seem retarded because you'll no longer be thinking about it.

Think about it.
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