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autigr14
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Hi,

First of all, I'm new here so, hello from Southeast Alabama!

My question is in regard to a home equity loan. We are selling our current home and have found an excellent deal on a larger house. The house was foreclosed on and we have a contract on the house for about $25K less than what the builder had in it (e.g. our mortgage will be for around $258K and the builder's cost was ~$285K). The house was put on the market for nearly $360K and the houses around this one are going for above $320k, so my prediction is that we will have around $60-$80K in equity pretty quickly.

I also understand that initial appraisals will be very conservative because some appraisers were sued when the housing bubble burst because some properties sold for far less than what they were initially appraised.

All this being said, I have about $18K in miscellaneous debt and I would like to take out a home equity loan. I am going to try to take out $35K to consolidate the aforementioned debt and also furnish the new house after we close. Does anyone see a problem with me doing this? Also, how soon after closing on the house would I be able to do this?

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Post Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:47 pm
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and also furnish the new house after we close


LOL - what happened to the furniture in your old house?

You are following the exact recipe that caused the real estate bubble - ie, using your house for an ATM and spending the equity on fast-depreciating toys.
But I doubt that you'll be able to do this, the appraisal will be close to your purchase price, way less than last year's prices.
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and also furnish the new house after we close


LOL - what happened to the furniture in your old house?

You are following the exact recipe that caused the real estate bubble - ie, using your house for an ATM and spending the equity on fast-depreciating toys.
But I doubt that you'll be able to do this, the appraisal will be close to your purchase price, way less than last year's prices.


Our washer and dryer are crap. And we'll need a refrigerator, other than that, we won't need anything. Mainly the loan will be used to consolidate credit card debt, so how is that a fast depreciating toy? Especially if the credit card's interest rate is higher than the loan's? And people using the equity in their home to pay off fast depreciating toys might have been part of the real estate bubble, but the precedent of that was people bought houses they couldn't afford in the first place. And not to be rude, but I'm an engineer, not a burger builder, so I don't think I'll have that problem.
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I wouldn't suggest moving until you have your debt paid for. Selling and moving into a bigger house with a bigger payment and still carrying the debt is a bad idea. As for a home equity loan to just move your debt around is also a bad idea. I see a problem a brewing if you do this. Just a warning in my opinion.

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And people using the equity in their home to pay off fast depreciating toys might have been part of the real estate bubble, but the precedent of that was people bought houses they couldn't afford in the first place


The Rule of 72 - your money doubles in rate X years = 72. Ie, @ 12% it doubles in 6 yrs. That is based on e^0.72 = 2.

That same rule works on revolving consumer debt - if you pay 12% on $18,000 your lender gets $36,000. So you need to get on the righr side of that equation.

Eg, $10,000/yr placed a 12%/yr = $2.7M in 30 yrs. If you make that a priority, a family discipline, never waiver, then you can enjoy spending the rest of our income stream on your family.

BTW, appliances are among the worst depreciating items that a family owns - late model are probably the absolute worst.
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Whoops - I meant "late-model cars".
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I don't see how you could get anything for a heloc more than what the down payment was. House prices aren't moving upward that fast amywhere I know.

If you buy for 1$, then the value is 1$. the appraisal will likely be about the same as the price you negotiated. They work backwards, unless there is some great disparity between what you think its worth and what the bank/appraiser thinks. usually the difference is that you think its worth more than the bank does. In that case, they won't give you more than what the house appraises.

btw, if the builder paid a million dollars to build the house, it doesn't mean the house is worth a million, it just means the builder messed up.
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Home equity loans make a great option for refinancing, but there are some important factors that should be taken into consideration, before taking any decision. Generally speaking, there are 2 types of lenders offering home equity loans. One that offer you loan with low cost refinance & other which give 'no cost' refinance home equity loans to the borrower. When ready to take the crucial decision, have thorough research about your lender and the offer you are getting. Take extra care to check, you are not being ask to pay higher rate of interest or additional fee. A rare edge that home equity loans get against other loans is that you don't need to pay cash by closing costs on your loans.

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One question I forgot to ask. What happens if the value doesn't go up and you have all of this debt??????

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I can't imagine the bank being too quick to offer you a HELOC on your new home. Especially with the Credit CARD Act in effect, banks are trying to figure out how to make money. This may mean we'll see an even tighter grip on lending than we've seen the past year, at least until the smoke has cleared and banks are able to more accurately forecast their earnings and losses.
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HI
home equity loan allows you as a homeowner to get a loan by using the equity in your home as collateral. The equity consists of whatever funds you have invested in your property in order to own it or improve it.

Thanks !!!!
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I suggest to the personal financial management classes I teach is to stop using credit cards for any daily expenses.Concentrate on paying off one card by paying extra on that card every month but continue to make the minimum payments on every card you have.
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