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I've been out of work for quite a while. Just got a part time job. I worked as an independent contractor last year, and at the time didn't have any idea what implications this had on anything. I beleive the person who hired me in this capacity apparently did.

I didn't know I had to pay estimated taxes; my income was rather unpredictable, though I would have liked it to be steady. The irs penaltied me for that and the fact the my tax preparer didn't get to it until July, although I had it in on time.

I honestly am baffled how not even a legalized entity can presume to flail such 'authority' and, especially in this economic climate be so ruthless. It is indeed a nazi organization, with definite communist authoritatian leanings.

I called them up, waited 25 minutes to speak with a 'rep' (as the automated system was dysfunctioning), asked Mrs. Arne how they can presume to do this and that I direly need some assistance - and she hung up!
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There's an old quotation that applies: "ignorance of the law is no excuse."

Suck it up, pay your penalty, and go on from here. Next year you know how it needs to be done.

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There is no excuse to this. You should have know about it earlier. Paying taxes and on time is a must.
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The IRS audit is the taxpayer's biggest fear. Even those who do their taxes honestly begin to wonder if they do it correctly. The idea of sanctions, charges and even jail comes to mind. However, you're protected by the laws of the audit by the Internal Revenue Service audit before You panic.
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However, you're protected by the laws of the audit by the Internal Revenue Service audit before You panic.

An explanation would be helpful.
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In your previous job, your paycheck probably had state and federal taxes withheld. Since those taxes were not withheld from your current salary, didn't you wonder about when the taxes would have to be paid?
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There's an old quotation that applies: "ignorance of the law is no excuse."

Suck it up, pay your penalty, and go on from here. Next year you know how it needs to be done.


Well just a matter of opinion here but I do believe if Americans keep this type of attitude when it comes to government and laws our situation will only get worse. I honestly believe the IRS is one of the biggest mafias out there. Who audits the auditors? Just like the federal reserve which has never been audited. Technically paying income tax is a big scam. From what I have been led to believe there was never really a law stating Americans had to be taxed for their income. Maybe for everything else such as sales tax and what not but never for their income. Just look up extortion. If you ask me, the IRS totally practices this just the same way any mob member out there would.
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I honestly believe the IRS is one of the biggest mafias out there..

Although I agree with you in principle, the law is what the law is, and if we don't like it we have to change it. In the meantime, we have to abide by it or face the consequences. The financially prudent course of action, NOT the ideological course of action, is the proper action to take, and is the basis of the advice above.

16th Ammendment to the Constitution of the United States:
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The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

and ratified by the requisite number of states, and tested and upheld in multiple U.S. Supreme Court decisions.
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One of the only aspects of communism that I beleive in is paying taxes on income for the greater benefit of us all, the less fortunate and whatnot. I don't beleive in the gestapo tactics that are sometimes used to do this, nor the brutal, merciless penalization of the taxpayer when they show good faith as I have after doing the right thing, and after my preparer decided to take his time in filing the return.
The breaking in and pillaging of a U.S. citizen was in the mainstream news recently. There are many such barbaric stories.

I don't however beleive in mindless alegiance to a communist-like regime.

The Constitution also has some things to say about this.
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I think you're misunderstanding the point in the "Communist Manifesto" about income taxes. Karl Marx wasn't talking about taxation as a part of the Communist System, he was listing it as one of the ways in which to destroy the bourgeoisie-ruled society; by taxing them heavily as a punishment for being rich; and redistributing their wealth to the proletariat. Kind of like what Pres. Obama wants to do, I guess. Confused

In fact, in a pure-communist system there is no need for taxes.

Of course, there's no incentive for personal achievement, either, since nobody gets any extra income for working harder.

So.....the harder you work.....the more money you earn.....the higher your tax rate. That's what America is about these days? For crying out loud. Where's my time machine.....I want outa this century.
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There's an old quotation that applies: "ignorance of the law is no excuse."

Suck it up, pay your penalty, and go on from here. Next year you know how it needs to be done.


We've all made financial mistakes. What separates people is that smart ones learn and adjust their future decisions (in this case, paying tax estimates) so that they are better at managing their money. And the not-so-smart ones keep on making the same mistakes and then complain because they never get ahead.

I don't understand the op's statement that his tax preparer didn't get his taxes done until July. Taxes are due April 15, so your appointment with that person should have been prior to April 15, and then at that appointment, you should have signed papers for the preparer to file it electronically, and the return should have been signed and dated by that person. If the person was not able to complete the taxes in that appointment, you should have made arrangements to stop by and pick up those taxes before April 15th. Didn't you call the tax preparer and ask why your taxes weren't ready on April 14?
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quote:
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There's an old quotation that applies: "ignorance of the law is no excuse."

Suck it up, pay your penalty, and go on from here. Next year you know how it needs to be done.


Or he could fly a plane into the building. Remember Coaster our country started out as a tax revolt.

Didn't one economist do a study that shows people will cheat if taxes go above 19%. Of course some will always cheat ans some will never cheat. But the masses cheat if you try and take 1/5th.

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Remember Coaster our country started out as a tax revolt.

That's a common misconception. "No taxation without representation" was one of many issues we had with England:

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He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.



(Declaration of Independence)

Actually, if the main issued could be summarized it would be "tyranny".

And what was the very first thing that President George Washington did after he was elected? He put down a tax revolt. See: "The Whiskey Rebellion"

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