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Thanks Sarah, it good to hear a realistic review, as my wife and I have been interested in seeing this one. Although that length would make it a much better movie for home viewing with lots of pauses, as opposed to that non-stop 3 hours, but time flies when you're having fun, so perhaps I just have to see how fun it is... 
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Wed Dec 28, 2005 8:29 pm |
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Euler
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I took my little girls to see Narnia, which we all loved, despite the fact that they didn't respect the source material as much as, say, Peter Jackson would have.
Anyway, we're at the snack counter when the popcorn guy asks me what movie we're seeing. "Narnia", I sez. He then leans over and whispers two words: "See Kong."
I took that as a pretty weighty endorsement.
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Thu Dec 29, 2005 6:39 pm |
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ive seen it absolutley amazing....all ages could see it.
even grampys should see it to see how much technology has advanced
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Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:40 pm |
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The film looks very nice but the story is severely lacking when placed alongside Jacksons other major movie - LOTR. I know it's a fantasy film and everything but nothing in it was believable at all. How exactly did they manage to squeeze an enormous ape onto a boat to ship him back to NY? For that matter how did they get Kong onto the boat in the first place when all they had was a small rowing boat? Come to think of it how did the boat not sink after crashing several times into very large rocks?
Little things perhaps but LOTR was so polished that you were dazzled by both the storyline and the setting. Kong didn't have a story in my opinion.
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Tue Jan 03, 2006 3:46 pm |
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Euler
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The story of Kong doesn't rely upon realism. You are asking too much of the story and therefore sabotaging the point of the movie.
For example, if you are prepared to accept that an ape that large could actualy exist - that his physical heart could possibly pump enough blood through that much flesh without boiling the blood due to too much pressure - if you're prepared to accept THAT - then you shouldn't be too concerned with the engineering details of the ship used to take Kong from the island to the city.
Jackson is a one-trick pony. Here is his formula in three steps:
He rediscovers buried gems in our culture.
He respects the original source material. No re-inventing.
He leverages modern computer imaging and network technology to recreate the original story with enough eye-candy for modern audiences.
And that's it, that's Jackson. AT least, that's LOTR/Kong/Hobbit-era Jackson.
Since the original Kong doesn't spend much time on the engineering specs of the various means of Kong transportation, neither does Jackson. It's just a level of realism the original art never intended to address. So Jackson rightfully left it out.
The story still accomplishes its mission easily. It's the juxtaposition of beauty against beast, civility against savagery, capitalism against exploitation.
But don't put too much stock in my opinion. I still have yet to "See Kong".
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Tue Jan 03, 2006 6:21 pm |
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I can see your point, just not sure that the story was really that great to begin with. To me it was little more than a typical Hollywood blockbuster, up there with Jurassic Park but no more.
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Tue Jan 03, 2006 6:32 pm |
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Euler
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Well that's right. The original King Kong was supposed to be a gimmick movie, a monster flick - just like what you said, a hollywood blockbuster.
I'm about this far >< from deciding it's a rental.
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Tue Jan 03, 2006 6:45 pm |
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Have no desire to see a kong movie just as I had no desire to see Titantic. Have to admit I enjoyed Titantic.
So perhpas I'll enjoy Kong when it makes it to TV.
Just watched the Fantastic Four. Almost cried when Ben's wife rejected him as "The Thing" Still, I think it would have made a better sequil. Would have been cooler for them to just alreay be the Fantastic Four operating on all four cylinders instead of just starting out.
It would be funny if someone marketed say a 100 minute version:)
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Tue Jan 03, 2006 8:50 pm |
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king kong - by peter jackson
okay peter jackson..its gunna be a long film
thats why the start is long...its good because it describes that she isnt just an amazing actor (miss darro) but she got on the ship by chance.
the natives are good..hehe
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Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:37 pm |
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[quote="Euler"]
For example, if you are prepared to accept that an ape that large could actualy exist - that his physical heart could possibly pump enough blood through that much flesh without boiling the blood due to too much pressure quote]
Wouldn't this make the existance of large dinosaurs impossible too? If you're right, wouldn't their blood have been forced through with enough pressure to boil?
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Wed Jan 04, 2006 12:53 am |
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Euler
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Ah, good point.
Kong is much bigger and performs acrobatics which, if done by a comparable sized dinosaur, would have exploded the dino.
But this is all sort of silly 'how many angels on the head of a pin' parlor discussion. The point is, Kong exists in a context where certain rules of physics don't exist. You don't need to look hard to find the fantasy in Kong, it's a monster movie! LOL
It's like saying Spongebob would be better if they left out Squidward's Clarinet because obviously a wind instrument should not function underwater.
Realism isn't always better.
I guess this all goes to say: In magical Giant Monkey Land, boats are much stronger and larger inside than they appear. I can accept that - especially if I'm paying money to see a movie about, well... Giant Monkeys.
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Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:36 am |
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So....whats the boiling point of blood.
he'd probably have 3or4 hearts
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