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Doro Ajani
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Advertise online? Eliminate Click Fraud!!!  Reply with quote  

If you use Google Adwords or Yahoo! to display your pay per click ads for your business' website on streams displayed on other websites, you may be losing potential sales to click fraud.

Unfortunately, both Google and Yahoo! are in the curious position to indirectly benefit from this activity, which means that while this is great for their shareholders, YOU aren't likely to get much help as your advertising budget is wasted on people and software programs clicking on your ads who have NO INTEREST in purchasing your product or service.

We can help you detect click fraud that you most likely have already paid for, and not only recover that money, but assist you in getting better results for your online advertising.

For more details, email us at: info@thoughtdeep.com
or visit us at http://thoughtdeep.com/services.html


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Post Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:42 pm
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I see both ends of this kind of advertising as a bad option for all but larger players.

Using your website to advertise for them is giving away valuable traffic for pennies and buying clicks is way to expensive for most small advertisers.

I have found better ways for me and it's not that hard.

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Post Fri Feb 16, 2007 3:26 pm
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Originally posted by No-Brainer
I see both ends of this kind of advertising as a bad option for all but larger players.

Using your website to advertise for them is giving away valuable traffic for pennies and buying clicks is way to expensive for most small advertisers.

I have found better ways for me and it's not that hard.


I would like to think that the information made available on the website for showing businesses that use PPC advertising through Google and Yahoo how to counteract click fraud is straight forward.

In many cases, the click fraud is not only going undetected, but is severly diminishing the effectiveness of the business website's ad campaign, and negatively impacting on potential sales.

That said, I'd appreciate it if you could elaborate on your comment.
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It's pretty straight forward, I had a website that attracted people interested in marketing online specifically, so I added AdSense for the keywords that applied. When I got up near the $100 needed to be paid, they canceled my account for click fraud. I never had clicked my own links or told my family I even had the site, which is the most common source of this problem. Needless to say, they kept all the money I had earned.

The AdWords side of my comment goes without saying. If you're not extremely careful in setting up your campaign and have a target that converts very well, you can run up several dollars a DAY in advertising costs. As a small player, that's over my head when I can get some pretty good advertising free or very inexpensive and in my case, since I made the top 50 referrers in my current endeavor out of 77,000 I would say it has been effective.

What I find more effective than AdWords is using my own campaigns based on a $7 script that I purchased at a one time cost that picks ads from ClickBank based on the keywords I feed it. I only place ads at the bottom of each page on my website at http://100Affiliate.com because I don't want them to interfere with the main message, but when I do make a sale it is much more significant than anything I ever made with AdWords.

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No-Brainer,

I can't help but think that a competitor of yours was researching the AdWords that you were bidding on and deliberately making fraudulent clicks on your website in order to drive your costs up.

There's an e-book, with streaming audio/video content that's been developed that contains method for tracking and substantiating click fraud, so that it would be possible to secure refunds from Google, Yahoo or whatever pay per click advertsing service that is being used.

Here's a pic of the table of contents:

http://www.ppc-unleashed.com/images/CFSS-1_Manual_Contents.jpg
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I agree that this is probably what happened, but you would think as big as Google is they would have a better solution in place than to close innocent webmasters accounts and keep their money. As I said, I quickly discovered I don't need them. I make a lot more now in a shorter time than I ever did with AdSense.

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Post Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:28 am
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Some independent commentary pertaining to the click fraud recovery e-book, the CFSS-1 Manual:

http://forums.searchenginewatch.com/showthread.php?p=105539#post105539
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I like that sig line Doro:

"When a man tells you that he got rich through hard work, ask him: 'Whose?' "

In my opinion, if he's rich it wasn't his hard work that got him there, he had to figure out how to get others working FOR him. That's called leverage and it's a very well know system among the rich.

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A sample chapter of the CFSS-1 manual, for those who'd be interested:

http://www.ppc-unleashed.com/sample2/sample2.html

No-Brainer,

Yes, a little bit of leverage goes a very long way.
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quote:
Originally posted by coaster
Wow, is the audio volume ever high on that site....I damn near fell out of my computer chair!! Laughing

Let's take up a collection to buy Tim a seatbelt for his computer chair!

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Tim,

How did you find the presentation, once your hearing returned? Laughing
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New video sample for the Click Fraud recovery manual can be seen from here:

http://thoughtdeep.com/clickfraud-services.html

Upon reversing the click fraud on your ad campaigns
you can go from Crying or Very sad to Very Happy
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This is excellent seed money to start or expand a business, buy your dream home, car and pay off whatever bills you may have. Good luck!
Yes! I agree with you and I am sure you will get what you want.
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